I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS insist
on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that my account
won't be accessible after September 16th with just user name and
password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication methods"!
What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS insist
on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that my account
won't be accessible after September 16th with just user name and
password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication methods"!
What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail
will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
follow.
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail
will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
on that same page.
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail
will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple Mail, at least according to that website.
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that >>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user >>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication >>>>>> methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail
will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and >>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail >>> on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple
Mail, at least according to that website.
You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MSYou could try following Microsoft's instructions:
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that >>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user >>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication >>>>>>> methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them? >>>>>>
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail >>>>> will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and >>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to >>>>> follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail >>>> on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple >>> Mail, at least according to that website.
You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.
Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.
Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details, re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my
clients, they'll stumble a few times.
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS >>>>>>>> insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that >>>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user >>>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication >>>>>>>> methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them? >>>>>>>You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail >>>>>> will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and >>>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to >>>>>> follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail >>>>> on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple >>>> Mail, at least according to that website.
You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.
Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.
I guess if it were me, I'd submit feedback about it.
Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details,
re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my
clients, they'll stumble a few times.
It would be interesting to know how many of them are still using
Hotmail.
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS >>>>>>>>> insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that >>>>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user >>>>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication >>>>>>>>> methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them? >>>>>>>>You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail >>>>>>> will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and >>>>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to >>>>>>> follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail >>>>>> on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple >>>>> Mail, at least according to that website.
You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle >>>> when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it >>>> the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either. >>>
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.
I guess if it were me, I'd submit feedback about it.
Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details,
re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my
clients, they'll stumble a few times.
It would be interesting to know how many of them are still using
Hotmail.
It's now the 23rd, and Mail still works fine although I've altered nothing.
BTW, Skull-and-Crossbones, Hotmail has long been subsumed into MS
Outlook, and there are myriads of email accounts under that banner.
On 2024-09-23, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <[email protected]> wrote:
I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS >>>>>>>>>> insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that >>>>>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user >>>>>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication >>>>>>>>>> methods"! What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them? >>>>>>>>>You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication. I hope iOS Mail >>>>>>>> will incorporate this.
Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and >>>>>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to >>>>>>>> follow.
You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
on that same page.
You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple >>>>>> Mail, at least according to that website.
You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle >>>>> when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it >>>>> the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either. >>>>
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.
I guess if it were me, I'd submit feedback about it.
Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details, >>>> re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my
clients, they'll stumble a few times.
It would be interesting to know how many of them are still using
Hotmail.
It's now the 23rd, and Mail still works fine although I've altered nothing.
Maybe you got lucky. Or maybe Microsoft extended the deadline. I don't
know or really care. I haven't looked at my old, crufty Hotmail account
in many years as it's mostly just a huge spam bucket.
BTW, Skull-and-Crossbones, Hotmail has long been subsumed into MS
Outlook, and there are myriads of email accounts under that banner.
Yes, I know. 🙂
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